You know, I think so few times do we actually talk about maybe the financial side of dental. Today I’ve got Ryan Isaac. He is the co-founder and the senior financial advisor at Dentist Advisors and the host of the Dentist Money Show. It’s something we created specifically for dentists. Not anybody else to track and measure and benchmark their financial health and progress as they move throughout their career.
This exact question, which is, when do I have enough wealth to be totally done working? And this is the least sexy part of personal finance, but personal spending is everything in retirement planning the less we need to live on. I just think the happier we are and the, the easier it is to hit that number.
A lot of those dentists are bored, they’re burned out, you know, somewhere in their forties and. It’s easy to get distracted to start chasing things that can derail financial progress and almost ruin net worth, like sometimes indefinitely. How much money does a dentist need to have in the bank to retire Comfortably?
What do you think is, is one financial myth? If there is one in dentistry that just won’t die. Okay. Um. This might be controversial, so this is good for marketing.
Hey everybody. Welcome to another episode of the know BS Dental Growth podcast. I’m your host, Chris Astoria. Uh, today I’m really excited ’cause we have a, uh, a really. Cool guest that I think is gonna be able to help a lot of you because you know, I think so few times do we actually talk about maybe the financial side of, of dental, you know, we always talk about growing and everybody wants to grow, but you know, obviously there’s some pretty, uh.
Pretty extreme financial things that you have to think about as you’re growing your practice and, and what that looks like. So, uh, today I’ve got Ryan Isaac. Mm-hmm. Um, he is the co-founder and the senior financial advisor at Dentist Advisors and the host of the Dentist Money Show. So definitely check that out.
He is, got some good episodes out there. Um, he’s a, Ryan’s a certified financial planner, dedicated exclusively in the dental industry. So we’re talking dentists, orthodontists, oral surgeons, you know, kind of the same niche as, you know, kind of I am with, with Kickstart. Mm-hmm. Um, but Ryan really helps in specializing in helping dental practices, you know, manage complex financial decisions.
Everything from like reducing debt. You guys talk to me a lot about that. Um, navigating insurances. I mean, that’s crazy business right there. Optimizing taxes. Um, that’s a full-time job right there. Just trying to figure that out. But he’s also a regular keynote speaker at dental industry events nationwide.
Um, he’s got a lot of stuff going on, so, um, you know, Ryan, hopefully most of that introduction was correct and thanks so much for, uh, joining the show today. Yeah, man. No, thanks for, thanks for having me. I think that’s mostly correct, you know, you’ve been. When you’ve been in something for a long time, you’re like, I think that sounds about right.
Right. Yeah, that’s that’s about right, man. Thanks for having me. We were talking Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking about the, in the pre-show, 18 years. Is that right for you? Yeah, I just, I, I start my 18th year in this business, um, which is where I began in financial services and in the dental industry. And, uh, that’s where we began with Reese Harper, uh, was the founder of the company, and him and I, it feels like a million years ago, started this thing up.
Yeah. It’s, it’s been like you, man. It’s been a long, it’s been a long run. We’ve seen a lot of evolution of the dental industry over that time. It’s kind of cool to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, you know, I think that. I think that you bring a really good, unique perspective to to our audience here, and it’s been a while since we’ve covered anything on the show, you know, kind of financially related.
So, um, why don’t you tell us a little bit about your day-to-day roles, what you do, you know, how you help and, you know, some common, common things that you see out there. Yeah. Well, I’ll start with, um, I think maybe two things. One would be a data point, and the data point comes from the a DA. They publish this every handful of years.
So this one is a couple years old, but the average age of dentists when they retire, do you know what it is? Any guesses? I would guess in the sixties, but I don’t know. Yeah. Yeah. It’s, uh, it’s getting up there. It’s, it’s at almost 70 years old now. Okay. And the, the average age of the average American retiring, um, is 62.
Interesting. Um, there’s a lot of reasons for those things. Um. So I’ll say that and then I’ll say the, the next thing, which is the, the biggest question we always get, um, around like, what, what’s the biggest mistake dentists make financially? Um, and I think these go hand in hand. The way we answer that question over the years is, uh, we would just say that dentists have very complex, busy lives.
They have a million things going on. And, um, ironically or, or not, the, the more successful they become, the less time they have to get to everything. So as they accomplish all their goals and they get the money and the practices and the profitability, they just have less and less time on their hands to get to everything.
And what ends up happening is dentists typically. Just have so much going on, they end up kind of financially unorganized. Yeah. They end up making kinda like trading time for money in a sense. Yeah. I mean you do, it’s like a teeter-totter. You start out a career and all you have is time and no money, you know?
Yeah. And then as your career goes, you’re like, oh, now I got the money and the success. And now I’ve just have like no time to do anything, let alone, you know, like your own life and hobbies. And so that kind of combination of busy time constraints. A lot of complex things dentists have to deal with, they weren’t trained to deal with, you know, or work on in school, um, can kind of cause uh, you know, just a lack of financial progress or big financial mistakes, which is one of the reasons.
It’s not the only reasons. It’s one of the reasons why dentists end up retiring later than a lot of ’em would like to. So to answer your question, our job is to help dentists make smart financial decisions, avoid big mistakes along the way, be super organized, and give accountability to just staying on track to, you know, making their goals and making sure their values align with their money decisions.
Yeah. So let me ask you, if you’re a dentist in say their fifties, right? And they’re kind of like looking around like, oh man, how did this happen? Right? And you know, last they looked, they were like 35 and just kind of getting started, but now they’re looking at their bank accounts and you’re like, I haven’t planned well enough.
Is it? Yeah. You know, at that late age, is it too late? What can be done? Um, is that something you also help specialize in? I would say, you know, so, uh, over 18 years we’re in, you know, we’re all over the country. I was telling you earlier, we, we work with over, um, 600 dentists, we’re getting close to the 700 d um, client mark.
And, uh, bread and butter for us are, you know, mostly practice owners in their forties. And that’s a very common scenario as they get into their fifties. Is it too late? No. Um, dentists luckily have the opportunity to make quite a bit of money in. Short amounts of time, although people listening might feel like it takes forever, and that’s not true.
Yeah. Um, they also have the opportunity to build, you know, significant assets through a practice. Um, there’s opportunity, you know, but it doesn’t come without sacrifice. It doesn’t come without, uh, a plan. Like you gotta just, anytime you’re trying to make a big change in your life and you’re really trying to push it, you, you need a plan and you need accountability to stick to that plan.
It’s not a, it’s not a dental issue, it’s a human issue. We just don’t stick to things very well, very long. We just don’t. And so, whether it’s health or fitness or finance, like you gotta just have someone in your corner to check in with, hold you accountable, remind you of your goals, and keep things moving along, you know?
So, no, it’s not too late. And yes, we deal and work with that exact scenario all the time. Yeah. Well, let’s talk about the opposite side of the spectrum. The new folks out there, the new graduates getting into dentistry. Yeah. Um, you know, obviously they, everybody, no matter what industry you’re in, they say, you know, start early, start early, start early.
Um, so talk to me about that. Is it any different with, uh, with dental grads? Should they start now? Be aggressive, go slower? What? What do you think? Yeah. You know, so I’ll say a about, it’s between 20 and 25% of our client base now are non-practice owners, earlier in career associates. Mm. Yeah. Um, and that, that’s grown a lot.
It used to be much, much smaller for us. Um, I still think dental is an extremely, uh, lucrative career with a ton of opportunities. Probably more opportunities than ever before, just because of the, you know, there’s so many different kinds of business models out there. Dentistry has always been an industry fueled by like unlimited, easy financing.
Yeah. So, which is rare. I mean, you probably know this in your business and in ours and most industries, you can’t just go to a bank and get a huge loan to run your business. Right. Um, or grow like you just, it doesn’t exist. And so that, you know, access to capital, it, it, I still do believe it overcomes the huge student loan.
That, uh, most the new grads are in now, the taxes, dentists pay, the big spending. Um, yeah. So you coming into your career, I think it’s really important to get as much experience as you can as an associate to figure out where, you know, where do you wanna live, um, ’cause that matters. What kind of practice do you want to be in?
And, um, I do still believe that private practice ownership is the most viable, lucrative. Model in dentistry, and I think that’s where most people should be headed now. Not everyone is cut out to be an owner or should be, and that’s great too. There’s a lot of very fulfilling, amazing, well paying, you know, associate jobs Yeah.
As career associates. But yeah, hit the ground running and get, and get, you know, get the help in your corner. Get started. Get fast. I think that’s really like build up your skillset as a dentist, shadow, have a mentor, dive in and learn. Work a lot, work a ton. Don’t expect. To have a three day work week when you’re just fresh outta school, you know?
Yeah. Crying for a while, like you’re just, but uh, I think it’s totally worth it still. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, what specifically do you guys do, like say in a situation, you know, how do you, how do you help a dentist, no matter the age, I guess, turn kind of their clinical career into long-term wealth and equity?
What are some things that you really focus on? Yeah. Um, you know, there’s, there’s a few different pieces to a, a dentist balance sheet. One of the biggest pieces on a dentist balance sheet will be the practice that they own. Always. It will be the most important investment, probably the most lucrative investment from a cashflow standpoint.
That practice is the engine to everything, all the wealth dentists will ever build. Yeah, for the most part. So, um, our focus is always to help them prioritize whatever it’s gonna take to build a successful practice. To be liquid, to have good profitability, to good, have good teams, good training, like whatever it’s gonna take, um, to have the resources to build that asset.
And then it’s kind of, you know, like our grandma’s boring financial advice. But you have to take your income and you have to save it. Yeah. Right? You can’t spend it all, so you just have to take money. There has to be money left over at some point. I know in the beginning, that’s not always the case, right?
You, you gotta have money left over and you gotta put it somewhere that’s gonna grow and be untouched. For many years. Um, and that can be a lot of things, but that’s the main principle. So much easier said and done. But our job is to step in and, you know, there’s dozens and dozens of things that have to be paid attention to and organized and tracked and monitored to make sure that your practice is profitable and you have money left over and then it goes somewhere and grows.
Um, those are easy things to say, but they’re tedious to do and they take, they take a while, but that’s our job. Help them make smart financial decisions and and grow their wealth safely. That’s right. There’s things that I think make sense to outsource and get help with, and then there’s things that maybe not, but yeah.
You know, I think financial planning is definitely part of that. Mm-hmm. You know, I do it myself. For, I have a financial planner and um, ’cause I’m not, you know, I just don’t, I don’t have the time, I don’t have the experience, right? Mm-hmm. And, um, you know, I just feel better at the end of the day making sure that’s taken care of by somebody that actually knows what the hell they’re doing.
Yeah. And, and spends their whole day doing it too. Exactly. I mean, I just go buy a bunch of Bitcoin and call it good. Right. What could go wrong? That’s it. What could go wrong? A lot could go right. You don’t know. You don’t go know. Right. Yeah. I just go to Vegas and put it on black. Right. It’s worked for some people.
I’m sure it has. You’re right. You know, there, there’s a lot of technical things. Um. You know, money and financial planning and investing, and there’s a lot of technical things that people do get wrong and it’s very detrimental. And also, um, again, this isn’t the sexiest thing in the world, but probably the most beneficial thing long term isn’t picking mutual funds.
It’s not what in life insurance policy to buy. Um, it’s sticking to something. And again, as humans, we just, we, we get greedy, we get scared. We chase the new shiny thing, we get bored, we get burnt out, whatever the reason, we don’t stick on to on a path very long often. Right. And it’s that constant distraction.
And dentists, I think, are really susceptible to it because they have high cash flow, high incomes, and there’s always just people in their ears saying like, buy this, do this, invest in this, you know. Um, it’s really, really easy to get distracted, especially I really find it’s ironic. Mid-career, you’re hitting peak, you’re hitting your stride, you’re hitting peak success.
Money, cashflow debts are getting paid off. You got lots of money left over. A lot of those dentists are bored, they’re burned out, you know, somewhere in their F forties, and it’s easy to get distracted to start chasing things that can derail financial progress and almost ruin net worth, like sometimes indefinitely.
So. Yeah. Yeah. Outsourcing to an advisor is just really. Nailing the technical things, but then being held accountable to it for l you know, long periods of time and not Yeah. And working, working only in the dental niche helps you punch because you’ve know it’s what others are doing. Like with me, with marketing, right.
I mean mm-hmm. Mean that’s all we do and, yeah. Spacing it off of experience from, you know, 16 years of doing this, right? Yeah. If someone asks you a question, you’re like, have you seen this before? You’re like, yeah, I’ve seen this before. And there’s, you know, there’s always gonna be something new, but you know where to go to find the answer, because you only know one niche, one industry.
That’s, that’s how it’s been for us the whole time. Yep. Yep, exactly. Um, I, I did, uh, reach out to some folks before this, um, and they gave me a couple of questions to ask you. Okay. So, um, was our team, did you, was it our team? And they, these are like underhanded softballs. They’re, they’re, was it me? This will, this will really screw him up.
So I, this one? Yeah, let’s go. I like controversy’s that. There’s one here that, uh, I know what the answer’s gonna be, but, um, how much money does a dentist need to have in the bank to retire? Comfortable? Hmm. Okay. Um, let’s, let’s, uh, quantify it this way. The most comfortable number, the most comfortable way to, uh, quantify this would be take what you spend in a whole year.
Alright, let’s just, this is not true. D dentists spend triple this, but let’s say it’s a hundred grand a year. Okay? Right. Are you talking about personal or business or personal? Personal. Personal. Personal. Okay. What does it cost you over a whole year to live? Personally, that’s your house, your utilities, your groceries, fixing the cars, medical bills, vacations, everything.
Over a whole year. Right. Times that by at least 25 times that by at least 25. Um, and that is gonna be the amount of money that you’re gonna need, uh, to have when you want to be done. Totally working. Completely like income shuts off, right? Uh, that number is even more sustainable indefinitely if it’s like at a 30 or above.
Okay. So just those are some basic metrics. Um, somewhere in the twenties, I’m not for sure. You’re gonna say it depends. Next question on it always depends. So for example, if someone’s like, I’m retiring at 50. Well, chances are you’ve, you’re gonna live another 40 to 50 years. You better. And if you have no more money coming in as income, you better have a giant chunk of money.
So I want to see that be 30 x your annual spending if you’re 65, 67. Maybe you have a 24 x your annual spending, 23 x your annual spending. That could, that could be okay. And these, I’ve never heard, I’ve, I’ve never that before. That’s a great way to look at it, I think. Yeah. Well, and these numbers are based on, it’s the way that we measure things.
So we built an entire financial planning system in our company called The Elements. It looks like a periodic table of 12 different elements that it’s where we like benchmark and measure someone’s financial health in these different areas. And one of them is this exact question, which is. When do I have enough wealth to be totally done working?
Yeah. Uh, it’s one of our, it’s one of our measuring points and, uh, that’s how we do it. The re, the reverse of this math comes from something called a withdrawal rate in our industry, which is like, okay, what’s the maximum amount percentage you could take from a portfolio without depleting it? Right. And, uh, which is around 4%.
So that’s how we do the reverse of that math. But yeah. Cool. Take what you spend in a year times it by 25. That’s a, that’s a good baseline for like, that means that you’re gonna retire and then die with a lot of money still though. Yeah. So there is, at least it gives you somewhere to start, right? It’s just somewhere to start.
Yeah. Yeah. That’s cool. Somewhere to begin. If, if you’re too much further, if you’re too much lower than a 25 x. You’re gonna start depleting your money. I mean, that’s just gonna happen. Yeah. If you’re above that 25, you’re gonna die and pass on money. That sounded morbid and dark, but you know, I mean, I know right?
One day when you go, yeah. You’ll leave money behind if you’re above at 25, so, right, right, right. Okay, cool. I’m gonna do that tonight. I’m gonna go, huh? Yeah. I’m gonna guess that I’m gonna cry after I do that, but, uh, maybe. Yeah know, right? Yeah. But see, the, the factor in there is your spending. So the, the lower your spending, the lower that number’s gonna be.
And I’m convinced it’s, again, this is the least sexy part of personal finance, but your personal spending is everything in retirement planning and the, the, the less we need to live on. I just think the happier we are and the easier it is to hit that number. So yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Good. No new car for me this year, then.
Yeah. Thanks a lot, man. Geez. No. All right. Another one that I get, um, is, I don’t know if you’re gonna know this one or not, but what’s the minimum amount of cash you want to have on hand when pursuing a practice purchase? Mm, great. So, yeah, if you’re like an associate or a new grad trying to buy in, right?
Yeah. Banks, uh, this is a depend number, but banks typically, like if you’ve got, you know, $50,000 liquid accessible, 50 to a hundred, somewhere, it’s just gotta be accessible. Liquid, not sitting in a 401k or an IRA, um, banks are gonna want to see that. The more that you can have, especially these days when student loans are really high practice, uh, valuations are high.
You know, like people are. Trying to buy into like multi multimillion dollar practices. And, uh, the, the debt loads are big, so 50 grand, 75 to a hundred push that. And so that means though, and it’s such a good question actually, because that means for a new grad or an associate, don’t come out of school and just start chucking all of your extra money at your student loans.
I know they’re, it sucks to hold those, they’re gigantic. It feels like they’ll never go away. And maybe they won’t, they’ll just tax bomb one day, but like. Keep all of your extra money. This means it’s more important than even investing money when you are an associate. Um, having a, a good chunk of liquid funds for a bank to feel comfortable lending to you is more important than anything in that, at that part of your career.
So, yeah. Yeah, really good question actually. Yeah. Crucial too. Um, I don’t know what this one means, maybe you will, but what does Elements financial planning mean and how does it differ from typical planning? Yeah, that’s the system I was talking about. Uh, okay. Reese Harper and I created that 10, 10 plus years ago, and it, it, you know, just picture for the dentist listening, the chemistry class and the periodic table of elements that you had, you know, little colorful blocks and little, couple letters and number and numbers in there.
We built, uh, a table of 12 elements and they measure. Think of it like, um, they’re just indicators of per of your financial health in different areas. How well are you insured? How is your money invested? Where does your money go? How much goes to taxes or spending or debt? Uh, what’s your net worth? How liquid are you?
How much of your net worth is sitting in real estate or businesses? They’re just indicators where when someone hires us as an advisor, we go through a process where we gather all tons, every, every bit of data you can think of. Um, we put it all into these, these dashboards and then we populate our elements, uh, scorecards with these things.
And then throughout the year as we meet with clients, we send out reports. And when we make decisions, we go to our elements scorecards, and we look at these numbers like, should I, should I buy the building that I’m leasing or should I continue leasing it? Well, let’s look at some of your element scorecards.
Yeah. And see how that would affect us. Let’s do some what if scenarios. And so the elements is just. It’s something we created specifically for dentists, not anybody else to track and measure and benchmark their financial health and progress as they move throughout their career and giving us like a resource to go, um, consult really, let’s go consult the numbers before we make big decisions.
That’s what, that’s what it’s about. That’s cool. And so, yeah, traditional financial planning is usually just like reactive. It’s usually like, um, there’s a piece of software that’s traditionally used called a Montecarlo simulation. It’s where you plug in a bunch of assumptions and you say, how long will my money last?
Yeah. Which is, they’re helpful. You can highly manipulate all of the inputs to have the output tell you whatever you want it to say. So it’s kind of funny. But the elements are just, they’re, they’re like real time snapshot indicators of where you are financially. Where you’ve been. And they, they tell, they help, they give us a lot of questions to ask when we’re making decisions.
And a good visual representation of it too. Very good visual. Very, yeah. Because you can just pull it up immediately and be like, all right, here’s my scores. Yeah. That’s awesome. They, they also help us benchmark too, where you’re at and where everyone else is Yeah. And what they should be, so, yeah. Yeah.
That’s cool. Nice. That’s why we, um, that’s why we built it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So what do you think is, is one financial myth, if there is one in dentistry that just won’t die? And, and how should listeners address it? Okay. Um, this might be controversial, so this is good for marketing. Uh, that’s right. I would say a, a myth that you have to pay off all of your debt as a dentist to be, uh, financially successful in today’s world.
I just don’t think that’s true or totally possible, um, to do that soon. And let me just give you some context around that. Yeah, it’d be great if we were all debt free. I would love for all of my clients to pay off their debt and have no debt at all. But the reality is, let’s just say just from the practice perspective, now, student loans might be another thing.
I don’t think people should be trying to rush to pay off their mortgages. I just don’t believe that. Half your car is fine. Let’s just say on the practice side of things, it’s highly likely that if you go a whole career, let’s say from your thirties, your sixties, three decades, it’s highly likely that you are multiple times in that career span, going to have to improve the practice, more ops, better equipment, improve your space, build outs.
You know, it, it just highly likely that’s going to be the case. It is not efficient every time you have to do that, unless it’s a small bill, like you need some hand pieces or something. Yeah. It’s not efficient to go pull money out of your retirement accounts or just sit on cash to pay for those in cash along your whole career.
And sometimes it’s impossible because they’re multi six figure projects you have to do. Yeah, and it’s also not. Healthy or good to just sit in an old practice with old equipment, old stuff, and then expect that someone’s gonna want to buy that dilapidated old thing That That was an old, that was like how it used to be done in the past.
Right? Right. People would just pay off their debt. Let their practices run into the ground. They’d just be like old, shabby looking things and then, right. So I don’t think it’s realistic that you’ll go an entire career if you’re trying to keep the value of your practice up, that you’ll be debt free. I just don’t believe that.
But retirement, like you were asking before, how much do you need to retire and be done? It’s not a matter of debt free. You just have to have a high enough net worth. After you have your assets and you subtract your debts, it just has to be big enough to sustain your, your personal spending indefinitely.
Right. So you, plenty of dentists retire very wealthy with debt still on their balance sheet when they retire. And as they sell things, they pay things off. And it’s okay as long as you can service the debt. Right. And still Yeah, it’s just net. It’s a net worth game, which is where the word net comes from.
Yeah. After everything’s subtracted. If you have enough, you have enough. Yeah. And it is, in my opinion, it’s worth it to still invest into your practice throughout your whole career so that it maintains its highest possible peak value. I just, that’s something I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. I could talk about this for an hour, but we’re gonna have to wrap up here in a minute.
Um, if somebody wants to reach out to you, figure out what you do, maybe even, you know, hire you. Yep. What’s the best way to reach out? Yeah. Do two things. Um, go listen. Okay. Email me and let’s, and get on my calendar. I’m, uh, so I’m a co I’m the co-founder of the company. I, um, am a, I’ve been a financial advisor this whole time.
I have a very small book of clients. I don’t take any more myself, but I do most of the intake calls. I like to meet people personally. Yeah. I do the same thing. Yeah. I like to hear their stories. Yeah. And make sure that. Uh, where they’re at and where they’re going is something we even can help them with.
If it’s, if there’s not something we can do, I’ll be the first to tell them, like, we’re not for you, at least right now. Yeah. Um, email me. Let’s get on my calendar. Let’s have a conversation. My email’s ryan@dentistadvisors.com. That’s the easiest way to do it. ryan@dentistadvisors.com. The second thing would, in the meantime would be, I think it’s healthy to get to know the company you might be hiring.
And the best way to do that for us is we’ve, we’ve had a podcast at least one episode a week for 10 years straight. It’s called The Dentist Money Show you. It’s on our website. It’s been a long time, man. Yeah. So dentist advisors.com. We have probably thousands of hours of free content, but the podcast has every topic and episode you can think of.
Click on something, you’ll hear our tone, our personality, the way we think about things, our philosophy. Yeah. And then email me, get on my calendar, let’s have a chat. And that’s probably the best way to do it. That’s awesome, man. Well, I, I really appreciate this and I’d love to, if we can maybe in two or three months do a follow up to this.
’cause I know that that’d be great. People are gonna eat this stuff up because, um, you know, it’s just. Anything niche specific like this with financial health, I think is hugely valuable. So, totally, man. Yeah. Be happy to. Yeah. So I really appreciate you coming on, and, and we’ll definitely do a follow up here in a couple of months and just see how things are going and Great.
Yeah. You know, go from there. But, um, I’d love it. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everybody, thanks again for joining. Um, make sure you subscribe, like, share whatever you want to do there, um, so that when we drop a new episode, you’re notified. First, um, but for Ryan and myself, uh, appreciate all of the, uh, feedback that we’ve gotten during the, uh, the interview here.
And we look forward to answering any questions that come through. If you, if you send me some questions or you comment somewhere, I’ll make sure we forward that on to Ryan and, and he can respond too. So, um, Ryan, thanks again and thanks everybody else for, uh, for joining today. Thanks for joining us this week on The Dental Marketing Podcast.
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